Showing posts with label Louis CK. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Louis CK. Show all posts

Monday, July 16, 2012

Louis CK And The Off-Air Radio Game

Local Radio image from Bobby Owsinski's Music 3.0 blog
As I posted a few times before comedian Louis CK does things his own way that many consider cutting edge in terms of marketing and distribution. Recently he embarked on a tour that bypasses ticketing giant Ticketmaster and charged fans a flat rate of $45 for any ticket. Here's a great interview with him posted on AVclub where he discusses the little-known game that radio plays with touring artists in a quid pro quo for promotion.
"I like to try to see if something can work. It’s really satisfying to figure out, “What if we try it this way? What if we made it way more pleasurable and cheaper to come see me? Or to watch my show online? And if we do this right, how much benefit were we getting from the giant companies?” The first time I ever toured in theaters—the first time I toured, really. You do comedy clubs, it’s just working clubs, but the first time I went on a tour in theaters—they were like 500-to-700-seat theaters, my agent asked me some blanket questions, like, “Here’s what’s going to come up,” and he said, “What is your radio tolerance?” That’s what he asked me. He said, “What presence are you willing to let radio people have at your shows?” and I said, “Give me an example.” And he goes, “Well, here’s all the things they will ask for in every city: Thing one is that the radio personality gets to come onstage and introduce the show. And the second thing they’re going to want is a van outside, broadcasting from the show. Then they’re going to want a banner onstage, with the name of the radio on it. Then they’re going to want a table out in the lobby with bumper stickers.”
He just made a list of, “Here’s the things that they will want.” Another one was meet-and-greets. They get to give away tickets, and the DJ introduces you to the contest winners who won the meet-and-greets. Ten minutes with you alone in a room where you take pictures and stuff. So they said, “What of these things are you willing to do?” And I said, “Let’s say no to all of this.” [Laughs.] One hundred percent of it. As a professional courtesy, if a radio DJ wants free tickets, he can come to the show. He can’t come backstage. He certainly can’t come onstage. They may not have their logo on any of the shit on the stage, anywhere near it. I want people to come to the theater and feel like they’re just coming to see this; they’re not being promoted to. I don’t think there’s anything more obnoxious than when someone has paid to be somewhere, to be promoting to them. That they’re paying to be advertised to is really annoying to me.  
I said to him, “Let’s do none of it.” And he said, “Well, here’s the thing: If you let them do these things, then they talk about your show all the time. They talk about your show on the air, and you get more free promotion from radio stations. If they get to say, ‘I’m going to be there,’ they’ll get more into it.” And I said, “Well, first of all, I don’t want people at my shows that are there to see the DJ. I just don’t want them to come.” And I said to my agent, “Let’s find out if this is a huge mistake. Let’s find out. I’m willing to sacrifice my first theater tour and have the places empty and identify that it’s because I wouldn’t let the radio people participate. But we also might find out that it didn’t make a difference and that I never have to do it.” [Laughs.] Because you can’t roll that shit back once you’ve started. Anyway, the obvious story is that it didn’t make a fucking difference. It didn’t matter."
Of course, most artists just trying to make it would gladly do anything radio asked, but does radio really have that much influence these days? The point is, just because something has also been done a certain way, that doesn't mean that it's the right thing in our new Music 3.0 world.

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Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Why Direct Ticketing Is A Tough Sell

Louis C.K. image from Bobby Owsinski's Music 3.0 blog
I think if you asked 100 concert goers if they liked using Ticketmaster to purchase tickets you'd get at least 99 "no" replies. After all, we all hate convenience fees and the fact that the ticket brokers get all the good seats first (not to mention the ridiculous service charge for printing your own ticket). So why can't acts just do direct ticketing themselves, and bypass the electronic ticketing services?

It turns out that's not an easy thing to do, as outlined by Louis C.K., who after some tribulation, seems to have pulled it off.

It turns out that most of the really prime venues have deals already in place with Ticketmaster, so they're contractually obligated to use them for every event. Louis found a way around it though, and found a number of theaters who would play ball, so they effectively are taking a chance on each other.

The next thing is that the secondary ticket market (meaning ticket brokers) is thriving and no one wants to upset the applecart. LCK once again tries to get around that by setting a flat rate of $45 for each ticket that can be purchased by a credit card directly from his site. What is new is that LCK holds the right to cancel any ticket if it's found that it's been resold, which could leave the secondary market dead in its tracks. In effect, he's just trying to cut out the middlemen who buy the tickets with the express idea of flipping them for a profit, maybe even from thousands of miles away.

That said, it's a tough way to do business by bucking the system. Being an artist is tough and most don't want to add another layer of complexity to their already complex lives. You have to hand it to Louis CK for looking out for his audience and trying his best to do the right thing though.

On another closely related subject, after much complaining about $13 beers, LiveNation has instituted a new $5 beer policy. As with everything in the concert business these days, it's important to read the fine print before you purchase.

* it's only good for certain shows
* it requires a $13 purchase with an $8 rebate
* it requires purchase of Miller Lite or equivalent
* it requires pre-qualifying $40 premium parking pass

It's too much to expect any kind of deal from a big faceless corporation like LiveNation. Unfortunately, this is what the live music business has become.

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Thursday, December 15, 2011

Louis CK's Excellent Business Adventure

Louis C.K. image from Bobby Owsinski's Music 3.0 blog
The comedian Louis CK is the latest artist to discover that not only can he survive, but prosper without the help of a big company. Recently Louie used his own money to shoot his show at the Beacon Theater in New York, then payed for the post-production and the web infrastructure to offer the video for sale.

The production of the video cost him $170k and the website around $32k, but he decided to offer the video for only $5 to his fans as an experiment, since most of his previous DVD releases where about 3 times that amount.. Within 12 hours he had 50,000 purchases and broke even, and after 4 days he made another $250k in pure profit with total sales of over 500,000. He claims he could have initially made more if he sold it to HBO, but if the video keeps on selling as it is, maybe not.

This goes to show that if you have an audience, you don't need a record label/broadcast entity/big company to turn a profit, and even better, retain control over your product. The problem is that you need to have that audience first in order to pull something like this off. How do you get the audience? Most of the time it's from exposure from that big company that we all hate so much.

This is the conundrum of the Music 3.0 artist. You've got to build your market, and the only way to do that is with the same old fashioned work that artists all over the world have done. You gig. Louis CK is just like any musical artist in that he played the small comedy clubs everywhere, but he did it for 25 years before he built his audience and chops to the point where a major entertainment entity took notice. Then when he got his chance, he delivered (even though his HBO show was cancelled after a short run), but in the process was able to build his audience to the critical mass required to break out on his own. Plus, he was willing to take the chance, which not many artists are.

One of the advantages to living in Music 3.0 is that it's easy to respond to your fan base when a situation like Louie's arises. That's why social media, your website and your mailing list is all so important. With all those in place, you can have the online success of Louie, Radiohead and Trent Reznor. If you hang in there, grow your chops and your audience, and stay in touch with them, you'll be able to capitalize at some some point.

Do you have that kind of perseverance? If you do, build that mailing list and social media contacts now. If not, maybe it's time to think hard about that day job.

Read all about Louie's grand experiment on his website statement.
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